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Level 23 is frankly absurd, and is probably one of the worst designed levels I've played in a fangame. It spams Necromancer Zombies, which make literally anything you plant completely worthless by placing Gravestones, which use PvZ2 rules so they also block your shots. It's not uncommon to have an entire lane filled with them, making it literally impossible to plant anything there and meaning that there's no way for you to do anything to stop the next zombie that shows up in that lane.

Even if you plant your sun producers in front (Which is a worse idea anyways because it's a night level and you have Sun Shrooms which give very little sun with that strategy), that still doesn't solve the issue of the gravestones. You'd think Fume Shroom's pierce would help, but you need to put them near the front, which means they'll inevitably get crushed by statues.

"Oh, but why not counter the statues by placing Wall-nuts?"

For one thing, the Statue Zombies come out far faster than you can place Wall-nuts. And for another thing, Wall-nuts are an outright waste of a seed slot because of the Necromancer Zombies, they're never gonna wall anything.

"Well why not use Garlic Drone, since they're immune to Necromancer's ability?"

Because Garlic Drone isn't a strong enough attacker to deal with the Bucketheads and Skeleton Zombies.

Everything in this level is an unholy synergy of bullshit that morphs together to ensure that you aren't gonna have any fun playing it what-so-ever. I can only imagine the hard mode version is the things night terrors are made out of. And apparently all the problem Zombies in this level were nerfed.

For the rest of the game, the graphics are nice and charming, the difficulty is (besides this genuinely dogshit level) very good, the new plants are unique and interesting, the extra modes are pretty fun. 7.5/10, this is a very well-made game but I cannot recommend it until level 23 is changed into something resembling a reasonable challenge.

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Idk what to tell you, mate (just used the sunflower to waste sun and a seedpacket slot from the upgrades, and no, i didn't used cheats).

First wave is kinda problematic but not as bad as you describe it, and cherry bomb would have been a better pick tho.

I can make some adjustments to the level, but again, there are way worse levels in the game. Thanks for the feedback anyways.

If you need help with more levels, join the discord server, there is a forums channel where you can ask or look for strategies to beat a level.

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It's such a fun level tho, i spammed sun shrooms puff shrooms, iceberg letucces and wall nuts (with the skin for a faster cooldown) to stall until i could spam bowling bulbs

coming back to this after the big update. nothing substantive to say but i only just realized there really is no point to the fire pea skin. what does it do that peashooter and torchwood doesn't? the cost for its traits is high and cooldown decently long, so it has nothing on torchwood besides saving a little bit of space. it doesn't even have much of an edge on repeater since repeater can be used with snow pea, which is a huge selling point. it's just kind of... worse.

i would raise its AoE a little bit to give it a desirable trade-off. maybe 12 direct and 8 AoE instead of 15/5

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The difficulty makes me play it more :)... the artstyle is amazing too :D

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ok so i been doing hard mode claire house and is stage 5 even beatable? because i been trying the stage for over 5 hours now and at best i lose at the zombie spam on magnet lane on final wave.  was the stage like needed some really good luck to beat? cuz i really cant figure out how to deal with like 4 screendoor zombie on magnet lane with the plant it give. i do very much enjoy the new update tho but some of these stage are very much cancerous. 

Yeah, it's beatable, but I agree this level needs some changes.

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The polish, innovation, and originality of this fangame is unbeatable. (and if anyone has any recommendations of others, please let me know.) I personally love how it feels like the zombies are a more organized fighting force. Also I'm glad the game was able to detect my previous save file. Super excited to play the new update!

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I played your game and so far, it's very faithful to PvZ 1. I can alreeady tell that it's made with love by a fellow PvZ fan. keep it up, ya'll!

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I love this game so much, I play it on both pc and android versions, the new versus mode is so good!! It's so much better now, the controls is easy to use, I played it with my friend together to try it out, he was the zombie and I was the plant, but I don't like how unfair it is sometimes, like some zombies either being way too cheap or way too expensive for its price, I also noticed that magnifying grass costs 50 sun to attack which I think is too much, it should just stay at 25 sun as usual since the zombie side can just bring in tanky zombies to counter magnifying grass. Also love the balance changes, though it kinda made me sad seeing some plants got more expensive, it's reasonable for how good it is like threepeater, serious watermelon, or even magnifying grass. I'm excited to defend the next house, I already beat Claire's house, the boss fight was amazing, it's really hard which I actually like since the other boss fights in nighttime and pool was too easy, I finally found something challenging in this game. 😁

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Hardmode 1-3 is getting harder dude

I remember snowpea was on the back before 1.3 i can't beat it, (or I'm just having a skill issue)

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Holy fuck these zombies are unbeatable. How the fuck do you beat level 7

Just stall the waves to get more sunflowers

thanks for the message, gotta beat this

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Me likey

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wow so coo

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se ah actualizado 

can you please bring the game to iOS?

in level 10 i try EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. AND I STILL LOSE. I WISH THERE WAS LAWNMOWERS

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ok use 2 lines of repeaters in the back or those bowling things and sunflowers in the front the sunflowers will act like wall nut at the begenning use potat mines and wall nuts to build up ur sunflowers

The purple plants don't seem to work how they do in PvZ 1 (being placed on top of another plant) is this deliberate or a bug?

The game doesn't have upgrade plants. The seed packets are pink because they are hard mode plants

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One question, you said the update was coming out on November 2nd, what happened was the delay?

When I wanted to install a game, I got a message that installing it will cause damage to my device. What is the solution? (I use the Android version.)

You can disable play Protect, try to install the game, and then enable play Protect again. This warning shows up because the game is not in Playstore and is made for an older version of Android

Thank you.

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I've got if not the most important question to ever be questioned in the history fo questions.... is there a way or corde to unlock everything without having to play the entire game? I'm mostly asking cuz a friend of mine downloaded it to play versus with his friend and was a bit upset for finding it was locked, thank you so much in any case you reply bt

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If you're in PC, you can modify the savefile which is stored in appdata/local/PVZ_ND/savefile.ini

If you need help you can join my discord server

I appreciate the invitation to the discord server, however I'm super reserved on the servers I join, mostly just ones made by my friends, I also must say that I'm very thankful for telling me about such, I'll have to just tinker around to see how will I be able to unlock things to then pass the edited copy of the save file to my friend so he finally stops complaining about the difficulty, Which btw, I love what you did with it, it's extremely difficult but not enough to be unfair or overwhelming (it's a bit unbalanced at times but that doesn't matter)

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Дружище, я не знаю, как тебе это удалось, но игра ничем не уступает оригиналу.  Даже лучше, чем оригинал! Моё уважение!

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the zombies are hard to beat so please nerf them bc they are too hard to beat like damn the annoyness of zombies so nerf them

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WoW

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tremenda obra maestra 20/10 y GOD

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I yapped a lot because this game is on my list of "games I love so much I can't describe it" with N-Step Steve Part 2 and it's just such a great time would recommend even though it's so difficult (which is good) :)

I've never seen a better Plants vs. Zombies fangame, it's literally perfect in every way, the challenge, the mechanics, and the mix of new and old plants and zombies is just so fantastic and every level has it's own personality and new gimmick and I'm always excited to unlock a new plant or even play another level, it's so funny how such a challenging game has a hard mode too, with even more plants, zombies, and gimmicks, and I love how the reward for 100%'ing the game is... [spoilers, press see more to see...more...]

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the beach ball in versus mode, that's actually such an incredible reward because it's just so powerful, I just wish you could aim it.

I see myself more often than not, checking for an update because I kept wanting to play this game even after 100%'ing it :P

Oh wait did I talk about the music yet? I LOVE THE MUSIC SO SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait for the next update, I might actually end up completing it the same day lol

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If you think the game is perfect right now, the update is gonna blow your mind lol

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The gardener zombies feel horrible to fight against

una pregunta, cuando lo descargo y lo analiso en viruz total me dice que tiene o viruz, pq pasa eso?https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f503296a054e2d2b2fe6f3ec18bfafc010258bb2133a...

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Es un falso positivo causado por los archivos .DLL que usa el juego para funcionar. Además, el juego carece de certificado digital (porque eso cuesta dinero). El archivo es seguro y le pasa a otros juegos de esta página.

Aquí hay algunos foros que hablan sobre eso

https://forum.gamemaker.io/index.php?threads/windows-defender-detect-my-game-as-...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.re...

Por cierto, soy consciente desde hace mucho tiempo de que el juego es detectado por antivirus y virus total, yo también he hecho la prueba y mucha gente también me lo ha preguntado.

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Hola Cris, acabo de entrar a Itch.io para conocer más de tu juego desde aqui, espero que la proxima versión sea mucho más grande que la anterior.

Tambien te deseo suerte por si tienes otros proyectos en mente...

Saludos :)

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The current version already has a versus mode unlocked in level 14. The next version will have significant upgrades to this mode :B

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El juego es genial mi calificacion es de 9.9/10 aunque es genial y la dificultad bellisima lo unico que me gustaria que tubiera es un modo de juego online global seria chido con salas de juego con rivales ramdon para modo versus ojala  lo puedan añadir, de resto es un buen juego mejor que pvz

No es posible añadir un modo online tal y como lo describes debido a que hay que usar servidores, los cuales pueden costar dinero, al demás del gasto de tiempo en el desarrollo para hacer la implementación.

De todas formas gracias por la sugerencia!

very cool!! any plans on IOS release?

Not for now, sorry

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Hope there's a PvZ Hereoes equivalent to this someday (would be 2d but maybe have rpg elements)

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I wanted this for so many years. the official company crapped the bed, but the fans came in clutch. will play this a lot XD

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Nice Game. I really like it and my Brother too.

This game is truthfully the real PVZ 2 and it is really well made the art style is cute. 10/10

And yeah it is hard but its fun 

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The game is very good, and very hard. I like the difficulty, it makes you throw out PvZ orthodoxy and think outside of the box.

Incidentally, anyone have any tips for level 50? I've tried everything I can think of!
Edit: NVM, I found a pattern of melons and turnips that carried me through.

-8394723456571803194742346762398634863849649/10 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TO DIFFICULT

Some balance and difficulty issues will be fixed in the next version (although I think you just have skill issue lol)

If you don't have fun with it, don't play it :b

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sorry, that was a rage comment, my real rating is 6.5/10, balancing is a bit wonky, but it's fine overall

Also the throwing paper ball zombie is annoying in early levels

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Debo admitir mis errores. Dije muchas cualidades buenas de tu juego, como los agregados en la música para modernizarla, sin hacer cambios radicalmente, los personajes y sus rediseños, las plantas originales (o por lo menos no las reconozco de algún juego de la saga) y los zombies nuevos.

Y cuando dije que la última parte del modo difícil era injusta, debo admitir mi error. La culpa era mía por no probar combinaciones más arriesgadas. Fue más satisfactorio encontrar la combinación por mi parte, pero aún así, que lastima que no hayan tutoriales para partes así. Perdón por dudar en ti y tu equipo. Son lo más!!!!!!!

No puedo esperar a la actualización siguiente, con el viento, o los jarrones o lo que sea que se les ocurra. Debo admitir que, no dejar las cosas tan masticadas como en el primer juego ayuda muchísimo a hacer pensar a uno mismo en cómo superar los obstáculos que nos ponen. 10/10 el juego.

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best game ever

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